Fstorm vs Corona

[Fq_studio]

I try fstorm render these days compare with corona render,I should say,with Double ES E5 2643v2 ,corona run fast then my single gtx980 8gb.

My E5 2643 v2 es which is 6 core 12 thread (3.5Ghz full loaded 3.7Ghz Boost) only cost me about 100 USD or 100 EUR each,and ES E5 2696v2 which is 12 core 24 thread (2.8GHz with full loaded 3.0GHz Boost) is about 200 USD or 200 EUR each.Gtx980 is about $246 USD or 229 EUR in china.

I could upgrade 2 *Es 2696 v2 on my current motherboard(Intel C602),and I could install 2 gtx980 8GB too,but with the testrender these days,I found that corona run faster on my platform~,，so for now I would buy ES cpus for corona render,but without ES cpu the Gpu is the best choice ,and I can upgrade Gpu easyly without upgrade the motherboard,so the Double Es 2696v2 cpu are the best choice for my computer now,but Gpu rendering has the great potential in the future.

The result is corona render is a better choice for now,And I will stare at fstorm render too.
BTW if U could afford Vray 3.5(1000USD),vray is the best choice.

Es cpu vs Final release cpu,Ok! It is about 700 USD U should pay for the Final release E5 2643 v2. For most people,people work at day,computer rendering at night,so doing the still image with cpu or gpu is no difference,but with Gpus ,I could try animation which is great.

Last words:I think fstorm should put all the mind on the flythrough camera animation for Archviz,No need to reload the scene every frame if only the camera or lighting moving(I think Karba can made something like if there is only new appearance objects loaded ,then only load new things not to reload the whole entire scene，that is how the Videl Game doing),or fstorm could have a option when on then not reload the scene just upgrade the camera or lighting(that is much easyer),and then reach the top ray or noise threshold save the image then do the next frame.
SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH!!

[antonyebl]

next time you don't have to run your text through a compression script

agree that for animation no scene-reload is crucial

you can't take Xeon ES as a serious comparison reference
(btw "ES processors are the sole property of Intel and are not for sale or re-sale")

on another note render-farms are an option for commercial projects...

[Fq_studio]

next time you don't have to run your text through a compression script

agree that for animation no scene-reload is crucial

you can't take Xeon ES as a serious comparison reference
(btw "ES processors are the sole property of Intel and are not for sale or re-sale")

on another note render-farms are an option for commercial projects...

ES cpu is not for sale(but u can buy it from ebay or taobao somewhere), intel made a lot of them for test,most of them are no difference from the final release(bugs of cause:some old es cpu NO surport pcie 3.0 or some DDR).

But the price is much cheaper,and nowadays ES cpu much better than before,no bugs at all I think,the most important thing is cpu can live for ever,the gpu comes with damaged V Ram,and need much more power,the highest cpu only 150w,two of them is about 300w right? but my gtx980 is 250w full loaded.

How to fix it? yes I do know, the anwser is wait 2 years, then the 1080Ti is about 2000RMB or 300USD or 310 EUR,maybe cheaper !so with 2 x1080ti,I can say that they are faster then my 2 es cpu,and without buying a new motherboard for surpoting new Es E5 29XX v3 v4 v5.....and so on,that is the way it is.

BTW if u want to buy a new workstation for GPU rendering,try sceond hand motherboard with 4 pcie 3.0 sli,so its cheap and only buy a old atleast above 4 core 8 thread 3.0Ghz CPU and overlocking,the old sceond hand cpu is cheap too,32GB DDR3 system ram are cheap also, then with 4 old gpus (Titan x 1080ti or something) and promise to the god I will not do any bad things anymore

There is only a few GPU renderfarm, but u can build yourself one,that is why we need fstorm.

And I do not have vray3.5 to test my gpu,if I have I can compare the vray adv and vray RT just one click,bec. the same mat same setting, same noise threshold,That is we
call fair.

[Fq_studio]

Let me explan why gpu can not run the speed as we think now(not futrue)

Yesterday I saw a techscrap says that cpu opimize the raytrace engine,and its not slow than the gpu,Why?

The reason I know : Gpu is quick on single-precision floating-point calulation but double-precision floating-pointcalulation(CPU says:"I have no problem with that!!")

And most render engine optimize raytrace calulationg on Cpus,so I compare the two unbiased render corona and fstorm(Maxwell render is too slow), with the same price (of cause with the ES processers), the CPUS run faster about 10-15% for now.


I try fstorm these days I found that fstorm did not use the full power of gpus,how do I know it? I tried a small secne on vrayRT yesterday,the temp is higher than run fstormRT,what is wrong or matter with that?

Many days before I am happy the low temp with fstorm running even with low priority off beforel I play the 3d game and run old vrayRT(not vray3.5RT),I found the temp diffrences,so I think if fstorm used all the power why the temp is 20%-25% lower than others? opimization?I do not think so.

I wrote these are not find fault with fstorm,I wish they see these and make press on them,hurry up,speed is everything,and plz add the scene loading time to the rendering time just like corona does,corona did add the scene loading time on the TOTAL elapsed,Vray is too old to die.

The good thing in corona is not the speed or the quality they have, IT is the "Decision" they make,just like the Game"OVERWATCH",learn from all the game and create their own new things and always following the "MainRoad" just like Vray does(We all see the changes).until now I think Corona win a little,Bec. Corona is small and "elastic".
(BTW last season my class on OVERWATCH is Master the score is 3920,yes I can do better

I wish fstorm to be success,bec. I just sell my Ati 280 and bought a new GTX 980 8GB Vram,I do not want waste the money and time, SO go Pikachu!

Last words:Why Nvidia survival Bec. The Decison made by the CEO OF NVIDIA.
Surport 3dsmax +1
Surport CUDA the newest version +1
Listen to the people +1
Payment -1 (NO Alipay!There is one day U will know I am right)
Plugin surport..... +/- 1
Animation(Scene reload)+/-1
Vram usage +/- 1 (Redshift Vray +1,they did it on saving Vram or use System Ram)

So the score is 1+1+1+1+1+1=6 or 1+1+1-1-1-1=0

Final solution:Fstorm+Corona=Fstrona
Add cpu Power to the Fstorm @Karba,make it happened,so i dont need to open two 3dsmax,one doing the cpu rendering another doing Gpu rendering.+1

SO the result is 1+1+1-1-1-1+1=1,Fstorm bareyly survived.Any thing with standard alone studio render cost re-learning will die,for example otoy,maxwell,somesays
otoy and maxwell have better quality, let me tell u that the core formula of renders are totally the same,the difference are the beauty Judgements,somepeople like red,some not.The physics never changes.

Please let me know if u have any different opinon.

[RobSteady]

Oh boy.....

[Fq_studio]

Oh boy.....
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